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Debra Tao
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Posted - 2013.01.30 02:17:00 -
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You cannot find more profitable ores in low sec, that's sad but thats true. So don't go there to mine. You can mine more profitable ores in null though but if you want to try that i recommend that you enter a 0.0 corp that will help you mining safely.
Appart from that there is no police in low sec so tanking your ship will only delay your death, the only thing you can do to avoid death is warping out before you are pointed. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:12:00 -
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Andracin wrote: Its not going to be alot of profit-you can make more in high sec tbh
Can you disclose the name of that secret ore that exists in low sec and not in high sec and that will provide a higher income for someone mining in a Venture compared to high sec ? I am curious. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.30 05:36:00 -
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oups sorry :D |
Debra Tao
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Posted - 2013.01.30 17:05:00 -
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1v1 Ragnarok at the sun, punk.
Also i don't have to mine to know that low sec isn't worth the risk, just open a spreadsheet and look at the results. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 00:05:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Crexa wrote: I really really wish CCP would do something with lowsec for the industrialist. And no, moon goo doesn't count. I've said for 3 years it's just a sad waste of space. Is there really a need for a 'buffer zone" between High and Null ? Perhaps just make Low a part of High and continuing to scale down CONCORD response accordingly ?
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Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.01.31 16:17:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
True PvP belongs in the Wild West anyway. Null Sec.
Now i know that you are a troll.
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Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:21:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:Zenito wrote:This thread's about low-sec mining, what's with all the figures for high-sec mining? 60,000,000+ per hour on one character works nicely for me  +60M in high sec is certainly possible. But the only "safe" way to mine in Low is with a venture. Procurer or even Skiff is just to slow and easy to catch. you will get caught and you will lose it. If not while mining, while getting the ore/minerals back to high sec to sell. With a venture you can get in and out fairly safely with a very high chance of survival. But even with max skills and drones a Venture will only do about 8-10M in low sec. This is why so many High sec stats have been mentioned. Even considering the average high sec income of 20-25M per hour compared to 8-10M per hour mining in low sec. You add significant risk, for less than half the income. if you try to mine low sec in even a Skiff your survival rate drops huge, even with warp stabs, as most pirates will assume anyone bold enough to mine in low sec will be using 2 warp stabs. They simply come after you with 3 points and you are dead. Sure in theory, with Hed and Hem at the top of the ore charts right now, mining in low sec looks like good isk. But the loss in m3/hr to actually do it safely drops your income below that of a high sec miner. Even if you do find a quit system where you can mine in a procurer with out constantly getting unwanted attention. - mining barges are very easy to scan down. -mining barges are very slow to align and warp - mining barges, even with a full rack of warp stab are very easy to tackle -mining barges fit for tank and GTFO have significantly lower yield than max yield high sec mining barges the fact is although low sec mining is possible, the risks are far to great when you compare the income to what you could make in high sec.
I am tired of people talking about income figures like this. Get your facts straight, use a spreadsheet or eve isk per hour but don't tell nonsense. 60mil+ on one character for high sec mining is just a lie.
The top income, with orca support, perfect skills and best implants in a Hulk is around 20mil isk per hour. And that's not your average income because it's not possible or effective to only cherry pick Kernite/Scordite.
In low sec, with orca support and perfect setup the top income (for Hemorphite) is around 27mil.
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Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:39:00 -
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Cherry picking makes no sense. That's like saying that my trading income is huge because it took me 1 sec to sell an item for a 10mil profit... A correct average of the income in that case must take into account the search and travel that you have to do to only mine the best ore.
Anyway i don't know where you got your numbers but i trust isk per hour more than you ;) |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:47:00 -
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Yeah... but cherry picking only high yield ores you gotta find them first, then approach and hope that someone hasn't mine there. Not to mention the fact that mining barges are slows.
My spreadsheet still disagrees with you, as does EVE IPH. |
Debra Tao
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:51:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:*shrug* these are the numbers i used to prove that the devblog was incorrect when the mining barge changes were announced so ccp indirectly said they were correct.
heu wut ?  |
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